Tip vs Say - What's the difference?
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The extreme end of something, especially when pointed; e.g. the sharp end of a pencil.
* 1848 , (Anne Bronte), The Tenant of Wildfell Hall :
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, title= A piece of metal, fabric or other material used to cover the top of something for protection, utility or decoration.
(music) The end of a bow of a stringed instrument that is not held.
A piece of stiffened lining pasted on the inside of a hat crown.
A thin, boarded brush made of camel's hair, used by gilders in lifting gold leaf.
Rubbish thrown from a quarry.
(Webster 1913)
To provide with a tip; to cover the tip of.
* 1598 , William Shakespeare, Much Ado About Nothing , Act V:
* Hudibras
* Thomson
To knock over; to make fall down, to overturn.
To fall over.
To be, or come to be, in a tilted or sloping position; to become unbalanced.
* 1851 , Herman Melville, Moby-Dick :
(transitive, slang, dated) To drink.
To dump (refuse).
(US) To pour a libation, particularly from a forty of malt liquor.
* 1993 , ”:
To deflect with one?s fingers, especially one?s fingertips
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(skittles, obsolete) The knocking over of a skittle.
An act of tipping up or tilting.
(UK, Australia, New Zealand) An area or a place for dumping something, such as rubbish or refuse, as from a mine; a heap (see tipple ); a dump.
* 1972 May 18, Jon Tinker, Must we waste rubbish?'', '' ,
* 2009 , Donna Kelly,
* 2009 , Rother District Council,
* 2009 , Beck Vass, 'Computer collectibles saved from the tip'
(UK, Australia, New Zealand, by extension) A recycling centre.
(colloquial) A very untidy place.
The act of deflecting with one's fingers, especially the fingertips
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* Jonathan Swift
To give a small gratuity to, especially to an employee of someone who provides a service.
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A gratuity; a small amount of money left for a bartender, waiter, taxi driver or other servant as a token of appreciation.
* 1897 , Bram Stoker, Dracula :
A piece of private or secret information, especially imparted by someone with expert knowledge about sporting odds, business performance etc.
A piece of advice.
To give a piece of private information to; to inform (someone) of a clue, secret knowledge, etc.
(AAVE) A kick or phase; one's current habits or behaviour.
(AAVE) A particular arena or sphere of interest; a front.
To pronounce.
To recite.
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, title= To communicate, either verbally or in writing.
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, chapter=1 To indicate in a written form.
(impersonal) To have a common expression; (used in singular passive voice or plural active voice to indicate a rumor or well-known fact).
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* 1819 , Great Britain Court of Chancery, Reports of Cases Argued and Determined in the High Court of Chancery , page 8:
* 1841 , Christopher Marshall, The Knickerbocker (New-York Monthly Magazine) , page 379:
(informal, imperative) Let's say; used to mark an example, supposition or hypothesis.
* 1984 , (Martin Amis), Money: a suicide note?
To speak; to express an opinion; to make answer; to reply.
* (William Shakespeare) (1564-1616)
* (John Milton) (1608-1674)
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One's stated opinion or input into a discussion or decision.
* 2004 , Richard Rogers, Information politics on the Web
(colloquial) (non-gloss definition, Used to gain one's attention before making an inquiry or suggestion)
For example; let us assume.
(informal) (Used to introduce a hypothetical)
A type of fine cloth similar to serge.
* 1590 , Edmund Spenser, The Faerie Queene , I.iv:
Trial by sample; assay; specimen.
* Hooker
* Shakespeare
Tried quality; temper; proof.
* Spenser
Essay; trial; attempt.
As a noun tip
is type.As a proper noun say is
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English
Etymology 1
Circa 1225. Not recorded in Old English or Old Norse, but apparently cognate with Dutch tip, East Frisian tip, Danish tip, Swedish tipp. Perhaps cognate with Old English . Compare Albanian .Noun
(en noun)- When he woke up, about half an hour after, he called it to him again, but Dash only looked sheepish and wagged the tip of his tail.
The new masters and commanders, passage=From the ground, Colombo’s port does not look like much.
Synonyms
*(extreme end of something) extremityVerb
(tipp)- I thinke he thinkes vpon the sauage bull: / Tush, feare not man, wee'll tip thy hornes with gold, / And all Europa shall reioyce at thee [...].
- truncheon tipped with iron head
- Tipped with jet, / Fair ermines spotless as the snows they press.
Etymology 2
Possibly from Scandinavian, or a special use of Etymology 1.Verb
(tipp)- the brief suspended agony of the boat, as it would tip for an instant on the knife-like edge of the sharper waves, that almost seemed threatening to cut it in two [...].
- I tip my 40 to your memory.
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Derived terms
* tip off * tip one's hand * tip one's hat * tippableNoun
(en noun)page 389,
- As the tip slowly squashes under its own weight, bacteria rot away the organic matter, mainly anaerobically with the generation of methane.
'Don't dump on Hepburn's top tip'], [http://www.hepburnadvocate.com.au/, The Hepburn Advocate, Fairfax Digital
- When I was a kid I used to love going to the tip .
Rother District Council Website
- There are two rubbish tip s in Rother.
The New Zealand Herald, Technology section, APN Holdings NZ Ltd
- Computer collectibles saved from the tip
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Etymology 3
Of uncertain origin; apparently cognate with (etyl) tippen, (etyl) tippen, (etyl) tippa.Verb
(tipp)- A third rogue tips me by the elbow.
Noun
(tips)Etymology 4
Originally thieves' slang, of uncertain orign.Verb
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Derived terms
* tipper * tippingNoun
(en noun)- A half crown tip put the deputy's knowledge at my disposal, and I learned that Mr. Bloxam [...] had left for his work at five o'clock that morning.
Synonyms
* cumshaw * baksheeshEtymology 5
Probably from , or a combination of the two.Noun
(en noun)Derived terms
* hot tip * stock tip * tip-off * tip sheet * tipsterDescendants
* German: (l)Verb
(tipp)Derived terms
* tip offEtymology 6
Noun
(en noun)References
* (English Citations of "tip")Anagrams
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English
(wikipedia say)Etymology 1
From (etyl) seyen, seien, seggen, &c., from (etyl) .Verb
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- They say that Hope is happiness; But genuine Love must prize the past.
- It is said , a bargain cannot be set aside upon inadequacy only.
- It’s said that fifteen wagon loads of ready-made clothes for the Virginia troops came to, and stay in, town to-night.
- I've followed Selina down the strip, when we're shopping, say , and she strolls on ahead, wearing sawn-off jeans and a wash-withered T-shirt
- You have said ; but whether wisely or no, let the forest judge.
- To this argument we shall soon have said ; for what concerns it us to hear a husband divulge his household privacies?
Synonyms
* SeeDerived terms
* dessay * doomsaying * nay-say * saith * sayeth * sayer * saying * there is much to be said * what do you say * you don't sayNoun
(en noun)- Above all, however, we would like to think that there is more to be decided, after the engines and after the humans have had their says .
References
* *Etymology 2
Grammaticalization of the verb. In the case of the conjunction, it could be considered an elision of "Let's say that" and for the "for example" sense of "Let's say"Adverb
(-)- Say , what did you think about the movie?
- Pick a color you think they'd like, say , peach.
- He was driving pretty fast, say , fifty miles per hour.
Synonyms
* (used to gain attention) heyConjunction
(English Conjunctions)- Say your family is starving and you don't have any money, is it ok to steal some food?
Etymology 3
From (etyl) saie, from (etyl) saga, plural of .Noun
(-)- All in a kirtle of discolourd say / He clothed was
Etymology 4
Aphetic form of assay.Noun
(en noun)- If those principal works of God be but certain tastes and says , as if were, of that final benefit.
- Thy tongue some say of breeding breathes.
- He found a sword of better say .
- (Ben Jonson)