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As a noun rate

is rot (process of something decaying or rotting ).

As a proper noun say is

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rate

English

Etymology 1

From (etyl), from . (wikipedia rate)

Noun

(en noun)
  • (obsolete) The estimated worth of something; value.
  • * 1599 , William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet , V.3:
  • There shall no figure at such rate be set, / As that of true and faithfull Iuliet.
  • The proportional relationship between one amount, value etc. and another.
  • * {{quote-magazine, title=No hiding place
  • , date=2013-05-25, volume=407, issue=8837, page=74, magazine=(The Economist) citation , passage=In America alone, people spent $170 billion on “direct marketing”—junk mail of both the physical and electronic varieties—last year. Yet of those who received unsolicited adverts through the post, only 3% bought anything as a result. If the bumf arrived electronically, the take-up rate was 0.1%. And for online adverts the “conversion” into sales was a minuscule 0.01%.}}
  • Speed.
  • * Clarendon
  • Many of the horse could not march at that rate , nor come up soon enough.
  • The relative speed of change or progress.
  • The price of (an individual) thing; cost.
  • A set price or charge for all examples of a given case, commodity, service etc.
  • A wage calculated in relation to a unit of time.
  • Any of various taxes, especially those levied by a local authority.
  • (nautical) A class into which ships were assigned based on condition, size etc.; by extension, rank.
  • (obsolete) Established portion or measure; fixed allowance; ration.
  • * Spenser
  • The one right feeble through the evil rate / Of food which in her duress she had found.
  • (obsolete) Order; arrangement.
  • * Spenser
  • Thus sat they all around in seemly rate .
  • (obsolete) Ratification; approval.
  • (Chapman)
  • (horology) The gain or loss of a timepiece in a unit of time.
  • daily rate'''; hourly '''rate ; etc.
    Derived terms
    * at any rate * exchange rate * flat rate * interest rate * mortality rate * failure rate * rate limiting

    Verb

    (rat)
  • To assign or be assigned a particular rank or level.
  • She is rated fourth in the country.
  • To evaluate or estimate the value of.
  • They rate his talents highly.
  • * South
  • To rate a man by the nature of his companions is a rule frequent indeed, but not infallible.
  • To consider or regard.
  • He rated this book brilliant.
  • To deserve; to be worth.
  • The view here hardly rates a mention in the travel guide.
  • * 1955 , edition, ISBN 0553249592, page 101:
  • Only two assistant district attorneys rate corner offices, and Mandelbaum wasn't one of them.
  • To determine the limits of safe functioning for a machine or electrical device.
  • The transformer is rated at 10 watts.
  • (transitive, chiefly, British) To evaluate a property's value for the purposes of local taxation.
  • (informal) To like; to think highly of.
  • The customers don't rate the new burgers.
  • To have position (in a certain class).
  • She rates among the most excellent chefs in the world.
    He rates as the best cyclist in the country.
  • To have value or standing.
  • This last performance of hers didn't rate very high with the judges.
  • To ratify.
  • * Chapman
  • to rate the truce
  • To ascertain the exact rate of the gain or loss of (a chronometer) as compared with true time.
  • Synonyms
    * (have position in a certain class) rank

    Derived terms

    * rating

    Etymology 2

    From (etyl) .

    Verb

    (rat)
  • To berate, scold.
  • * Shakespeare
  • Go, rate thy minions, proud, insulting boy!
  • * Barrow
  • Conscience is a check to beginners in sin, reclaiming them from it, and rating them for it.
  • * 1526 , William Tyndale, trans. Bible , John IX:
  • Then rated they hym, and sayde: Thou arte hys disciple.
  • * , I.56:
  • Andronicus'' the Emperour, finding by chance in his pallace certaine principall men very earnestly disputing against ''Lapodius about one of our points of great importance, taunted and rated them very bitterly, and threatened if they gave not over, he would cause them to be cast into the river.
  • * 1825 , Sir (Walter Scott), , ch.iv:
  • He beheld him, his head still muffled in the veila man borne down and crushed to the earth by the burden of his inward feelings.
  • * 1843 , (Thomas Carlyle), '', book 2, ch.XV, ''Practical — Devotional
  • The successful monk, on the morrow morning, hastens home to . The successful monk, arriving at Ely, is rated for a goose and an owl; is ordered back to say that (Elmset) was the place meant.

    Anagrams

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    say

    English

    (wikipedia say)

    Etymology 1

    From (etyl) seyen, seien, seggen, &c., from (etyl) .

    Verb

  • To pronounce.
  • To recite.
  • * , chapter=5
  • , title= The Mirror and the Lamp , passage=Then everybody once more knelt, and soon the blessing was pronounced. The choir and the clergy trooped out slowly, […], down the nave to the western door. […] At a seemingly immense distance the surpliced group stopped to say the last prayer.}}
  • To communicate, either verbally or in writing.
  • *
  • , title=(The Celebrity), chapter=4 , passage=No matter how early I came down, I would find him on the veranda, smoking cigarettes, or otherwise his man would be there with a message to say that his master would shortly join me if I would kindly wait.}}
  • * {{quote-book, year=1922, author=(Ben Travers), title=(A Cuckoo in the Nest)
  • , chapter=1 citation , passage=She was like a Beardsley Salome , he had said . And indeed she had the narrow eyes and the high cheekbone of that creature, and as nearly the sinuosity as is compatible with human symmetry. His wooing had been brief but incisive.}}
  • To indicate in a written form.
  • (impersonal) To have a common expression; (used in singular passive voice or plural active voice to indicate a rumor or well-known fact).
  • * 1815 , :
  • They say that Hope is happiness; But genuine Love must prize the past.
  • * 1819 , Great Britain Court of Chancery, Reports of Cases Argued and Determined in the High Court of Chancery , page 8:
  • It is said , a bargain cannot be set aside upon inadequacy only.
  • * 1841 , Christopher Marshall, The Knickerbocker (New-York Monthly Magazine) , page 379:
  • It’s said that fifteen wagon loads of ready-made clothes for the Virginia troops came to, and stay in, town to-night.
  • (informal, imperative) Let's say; used to mark an example, supposition or hypothesis.
  • * 1984 , (Martin Amis), Money: a suicide note?
  • I've followed Selina down the strip, when we're shopping, say , and she strolls on ahead, wearing sawn-off jeans and a wash-withered T-shirt
  • To speak; to express an opinion; to make answer; to reply.
  • * (William Shakespeare) (1564-1616)
  • You have said ; but whether wisely or no, let the forest judge.
  • * (John Milton) (1608-1674)
  • To this argument we shall soon have said ; for what concerns it us to hear a husband divulge his household privacies?
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  • Synonyms
    * See
    Derived terms
    * dessay * doomsaying * nay-say * saith * sayeth * sayer * saying * there is much to be said * what do you say * you don't say

    Noun

    (en noun)
  • One's stated opinion or input into a discussion or decision.
  • * 2004 , Richard Rogers, Information politics on the Web
  • Above all, however, we would like to think that there is more to be decided, after the engines and after the humans have had their says .

    References

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    Etymology 2

    Grammaticalization of the verb. In the case of the conjunction, it could be considered an elision of "Let's say that" and for the "for example" sense of "Let's say"

    Adverb

    (-)
  • (colloquial) (non-gloss definition, Used to gain one's attention before making an inquiry or suggestion)
  • Say , what did you think about the movie?
  • For example; let us assume.
  • Pick a color you think they'd like, say , peach.
    He was driving pretty fast, say , fifty miles per hour.
    Synonyms
    * (used to gain attention) hey

    Conjunction

    (English Conjunctions)
  • (informal) (Used to introduce a hypothetical)
  • Say your family is starving and you don't have any money, is it ok to steal some food?

    Etymology 3

    From (etyl) saie, from (etyl) saga, plural of .

    Noun

    (-)
  • A type of fine cloth similar to serge.
  • * 1590 , Edmund Spenser, The Faerie Queene , I.iv:
  • All in a kirtle of discolourd say / He clothed was

    Etymology 4

    Aphetic form of assay.

    Verb

    (en verb)
  • To try; to assay.
  • (Ben Jonson)

    Noun

    (en noun)
  • Trial by sample; assay; specimen.
  • * Hooker
  • If those principal works of God be but certain tastes and says , as if were, of that final benefit.
  • * Shakespeare
  • Thy tongue some say of breeding breathes.
  • Tried quality; temper; proof.
  • * Spenser
  • He found a sword of better say .
  • Essay; trial; attempt.
  • (Ben Jonson)

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