Bosha vs Lomavren - What's the difference?

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As proper nouns the difference between bosha and lomavren

is that bosha is (sometimes|offensive) the lom, a nomadic people related to the rom and dom, with origins in india, who reside in the south caucasus; caucasian gypsies while lomavren is the mixed language of the armenian lom people (the bosha), spoken by a tiny number of persons mostly in armenia but also azerbaijan, russia and syria and consisting chiefly of armenian grammar and pronunciation with an indic-derived vocabulary.



(Lom people)

Proper noun

(en proper noun)
  • (sometimes, offensive) The Lom, a nomadic people related to the Rom and Dom, with origins in India, who reside in the South Caucasus; Caucasian Gypsies.
  • * 1988 , in Languages and Cultures: Studies in Honor of Edgar C. Polomé , edited by Mohammad Ali Jazayery and Werner Winter, page 199:
  • The Bosha are Central Gypsy (Lomavren) speakers (Patkanoff 1908-1909; le Redžosko 1984); but what is noteworthy is the presence of two Romani (i.e., European or Western) Gypsy-speaking populations in the Middle East: the Ghagar in Egypt (Sampson 1928; Hanna 1982), and the Zagari in Iran (Windfugr 1970).

    Usage notes

    In Armenian, this exonym carries negative connotations such as "constantly begging", "impudent" and "shameless",2002', in ''Anthropology & archeology of Eurasia: Volumes 41-42'', page 23: "Although "Bosha" and "Tsygan" [Gypsy] imply diametrically opposite concepts in Gyumri (the former is constantly begging, while the second will never give anything no matter how much you beg), they are found in one and the same semantic space. the definition of an Armenian respondent from the village of Dzhraber (Armenia) seems extremely typical: 'a Bosha is an impudent person who has lost all sense of shame — a biznesmen.'" and the Lom people find its use offensive.'''2002 , in ''Anthropology & archeology of Eurasia: Volumes 41-42'', page 20: "The word "Gnchu" as an ethnonym to designate all Gypsies came into regular use in the nineteenth century, when the first research about Armenian Gypsies appeared. However, it never entered broad usage in Armenia and is not used as a name for "Armenian Gypsies." This term is no more acceptable to the Armenian Gypsies than the term "Bosha," and its widespread usage would offend then, inasmuch as it would draw a dividing line between them and the Armenians once and for all." The people's autonym, ''Lom , may be used instead.




    (Lomavren language)

    Proper noun

    (en proper noun)
  • The mixed language of the Armenian Lom people (the Bosha), spoken by a tiny number of persons mostly in Armenia but also Azerbaijan, Russia and Syria and consisting chiefly of Armenian grammar and pronunciation with an Indic-derived vocabulary.
  • See also

    * Bosha * (Lom people) *